tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post4534167046192718087..comments2023-09-23T11:16:00.352+02:00Comments on The Franco-American Flophouse has moved: Exodus by Paul CollierVictoria FERAUGEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-24940042973147468372013-12-16T22:09:18.927+01:002013-12-16T22:09:18.927+01:00That is a damn good point and one Collier does not...That is a damn good point and one Collier does not address. He's talking about migrant from poor to rich countries but as you point out a great deal of migration is regional - from one troubled area to one that is relatively better. This is a serious strain on the resources of the receiving developing country.Victoria FERAUGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-13821185979405133212013-12-15T08:24:50.152+01:002013-12-15T08:24:50.152+01:00Exodus' (exodi?) are not only to developed nat...Exodus' (exodi?) are not only to developed nations but sometimes from failed states to developing countries. Somalis to Kenya, for example. And the results are catastrophic. For example the Westgate terrorists were assisted by host country Somalis. The largest refugee camp in the world is in Kenya for Somalis who fled the series of warlords and now Al Shabaab marauding around that benighted place. Conclusion? In many cases the economic benefits to the host nation are positive, especially when the host nation's demography is heading north. But in others the results are clearly negative.Old Windbreakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-88725807455593438422013-12-15T07:17:30.869+01:002013-12-15T07:17:30.869+01:00Very interesting, Tim. I remember when I was a ki...Very interesting, Tim. I remember when I was a kid we could hop from Washington to B.C. with just our driver's licenses. Is that still true?<br /><br />Concerning the legal decisions is that just confined to family law or are there other areas where the other country's law can prevail?<br /><br />I know that the EU has worked to provide some sort of framework in the area of family law with new rules on marriage regimes and cross-border inheritance. Pretty interesting stuff.Victoria FERAUGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-66036488652918769522013-12-15T03:07:00.905+01:002013-12-15T03:07:00.905+01:00To your point about home or origin country control...To your point about home or origin country control this depends a lot on to what extent the new hosts country wishes to recognize the laws and legal judgements of the origin country. For example Canada allows US citizens and citizens of the certain Carribean nations to enter Canada without a passport just a state or local government photo ID. Yes, US state and local governments still control the issuance of these documents but not in the same way as passport issuance is controlled. Additionally Canada will issue travel documents to permanent residents and other Canadian resident individuals unable to obtain them from their home/origin countries(In some cases Canadian permanent resident cards can themselves be a travel document). There is also the whole Canada/Eritrea fight as you are probably well aware of.<br /><br />On the otherhand the US and Europe tend to give much more deference to the legal and political decisions of home/origin countries. In the US for example it is very difficult if not impossible as an immigrant non US citizen to obtain a passport like travel document from the State Dept if unable to get one from your home country. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03894651289037073128noreply@blogger.com