tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post3904080588211862256..comments2023-09-23T11:16:00.352+02:00Comments on The Franco-American Flophouse has moved: Diasporas: India and her PIOsVictoria FERAUGEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-52818570978190031152012-04-17T14:37:48.058+02:002012-04-17T14:37:48.058+02:00Hi Anjuli,
Thank you for stopping by the Flophous...Hi Anjuli,<br /><br />Thank you for stopping by the Flophouse. I'm not in Paris but very close (Versailles). I'd love to chat with you. Just send me an email: v_ferauge@yahoo.com.<br /><br />VictoriaVictoria FERAUGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-48604249570475306212012-04-17T12:57:16.481+02:002012-04-17T12:57:16.481+02:00Dear Victoria,
Are you based in Paris by any cha...Dear Victoria, <br /><br />Are you based in Paris by any chance? I am studying at Sciences Po, Paris and writing a paper on the attitude to the Indian Diaspora by the Indian Government. I would be very keen to chat with you if you are available. <br /><br />ThanksAnjulinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-40951690907042065442012-02-09T12:01:48.425+01:002012-02-09T12:01:48.425+01:00Hi K,
Oh please do - I'd love to hear your th...Hi K,<br /><br />Oh please do - I'd love to hear your thoughts about France.<br /><br />VictoriaVictoria FERAUGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-83020413537632108152012-02-05T05:08:57.581+01:002012-02-05T05:08:57.581+01:00Hi,
Being an Indian, having lived in France...Hi,<br /> Being an Indian, having lived in France, I have lots to add. In detail, very soon.<br /><br />.K..K.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-90966548840518488972012-02-01T10:41:29.015+01:002012-02-01T10:41:29.015+01:00Thank you very much, Eric, for the book recommenda...Thank you very much, Eric, for the book recommendation. Alas there is no Kindle edition so it looks like I'll have to wait for it to arrive. I think I'm becoming very spoiled - I tend to get a bit frustrated if I can get a book instantly. :-)<br /><br />Yes, isn't the America Wave site fascinating? The fellow who runs it is quite personable and very knowledgeable about American emigration - a subject he's been following seriously for some time. He has the first study I've ever seen about potential emigration. He also points to an interesting Gallup poll on this subject. I think his findings deserve much more attention than they are getting right now. The numbers are not huge but it's a bit disquieting to hear the kind of people that are choosing to leave the US with a lot of young, entrepreneurial types deciding that opportunity is to be had in Asia or South America as opposed to California.Victoria FERAUGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-82751698649680508022012-02-01T10:14:54.149+01:002012-02-01T10:14:54.149+01:00Thanks for the link! Interesting blog. Leo Suryadi...Thanks for the link! Interesting blog. Leo Suryadinata's "'Overseas Chinese' in Southeast Asia and China's foreign policy" is quite good in general but has very little coverage of the Beijing-vs.-Taipei aspects of that relationship. The most in-depth English coverage about Taipei's policies towards the Chinese diaspora is probably in Jie Chen's book "Foreign policy of the New Taiwan". He devotes a chapter of about 40 pages to it: "Qiaowu: Kuomintang's historical cross as new Taiwan's asset". http://books.google.com/books?id=moqbJAj2b1kC&pg=PA174Erichttp://notlearningcantonese.posterous.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-50566290030259306722012-02-01T08:18:28.339+01:002012-02-01T08:18:28.339+01:00Eric, Those are excellent points. I don't kno...Eric, Those are excellent points. I don't know the story of Beijing vs. Taipei but I am going to look into it. If you have a book or article about it, I'd love to have a recommendation. Yes, since nation-states can make any citizenship laws they want, they can certainly take away citizenship (or favorable conditions for obtaining it) just as they have the right to confer it where they wish.<br /><br />I think you're right and the US position is really becoming untenable. The unlimited jus soli laws alone have the potential for real problems with other states. And another issue is how to manage the dramatic drop in the naturalization rates - people living in the US who choose NOT to become citizens. That doesn't fit the national myth either. The reactions of Americans in the homeland to this information and the figure of 6 million americans abroad is visceral. It makes them very unhappy and I often feel like a jerk for even mentioning it. There is a fellow in Costa Rica who has an organization called Americawave that you might find interesting. He's done studies of why Americans emigrate and he has a good post here http://www.americawave.com/2011/09/28/why-are-people-leaving/<br />about the reactions he has received to his findings. I'll be doing a post about it soon since I find his work to be very interesting.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />VictoriaVictoria FERAUGEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319699673885400472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2424131704277823220.post-71498798510162967132012-01-31T13:58:20.797+01:002012-01-31T13:58:20.797+01:00Before any country can treat the diaspora as "...Before any country can treat the diaspora as "one of us", they have to define the "us". India had a much harder time with that than, say, Pakistan --- who, with wide popular support, defined their state as the protector of Islam in South Asia. The "us" was clear: South Asian Muslims, whether or not they had a connection to Pakistani territory. That let them be far more flexible than India on diaspora issues (especially regarding dual citizenship). A poignant illustration of this came in 1961, when Portugal tried to intern all the Indians in Mozambique (due to the invasion of Goa) and some Malayali Muslims, whose ancestral home is 2000 km south of Islamabad, got protection from the Pakistani consulate by naturalising as citizens and becoming part of the "Pakistani diaspora".<br /><br />And when the "us" changes, things get ugly. Look at the Beijing vs. Taipei competition for the loyalty of the Chinese diaspora. In 1985, Taipei seemed to have won hands down. Then Taiwan became a democracy in 1987 and (to the extent possible under their constitution) started redefining "us" as "people from Taiwan" rather than "democratic Chinese people". The Chinese diaspora "nationals without household registration" got a very hard lesson in how flimsy their institutionalized connection to Taipei was: Taipei cancelled it unilaterally and made many of them effectively stateless.<br /><br />I think something similar is going on the the US: homelanders are realising that their current definition of "us" is untenable. We expats have all grown up thinking we're part of the "proposition nation" of people who believe in democracy and the American dream of social mobility, and as long as we keep to this proposition in our adopted homes we're still Americans. But like Peter Spiro pointed out, the "proposition nation" self-definition could only last as long as democracy & social mobility were unique to America. Some homelanders simply shift their definition of "us" to "people settled in America", which naturally excludes expats. Others want desperately to stick to the existing definition of "us" as a unique proposition nation, but the very existence of expats forces them to deal with cognitive dissonance on that point.Erichttp://notlearningcantonese.posterous.comnoreply@blogger.com